And a good day to everyone this morning, on the morning where we can celebrate the fact that the Supreme Court yesterday decided that sexual behavior between consenting adults in private could not be outlawed simply because some people might find it offensive. The vote was 6-3 on the Texas sodomy law... the three dissenters, predictably, were Rehnquist, Scalia, and Thomas.
Also predictably, the Washington Post lauded the ruling this morning, while the Washington Times condemned it; the Times' main argument was that the Supreme Court did not have the authority to invalidate the Texas law because of the Tenth Amendment. Sounds reasonable at first glance, except that the Tenth Amendment says that all non-federal powers are reserved to either the states or the people -- conservatives tend to focus on the "states" part (which is perfectly valid) and ignore the "people" part (which is a mistake). The Times doesn't understand that certain rights and powers rest only with the people... and if adult consensual sexual behavior in private isn't one of those rights, I don't know what is.
In a related area... Scalia fretted that this ruling would open the doorway to gay marriage rights. Not sure about that, but even if it does, so what? It's hard to take conservatives seriously when they say that gay marriage rights "threaten the rest of us". If two gays want to get married, it's certainly no skin off my nose. Besides which, legally recognized marriage confers certain rights and privileges that you just don't get otherwise, such as (for example) the right to refuse to testify against your spouse in a court of law, or the right to decide on medical treatment under certain circumstances (such as when the spouse is unable to give consent for him/herself), and inheritance rights.
Thomas said that he was opposed to the law, but could not vote to strike it down because he couldn't find a "right to privacy" anywhere in the Constitution (and he's right; it's a concept that isn't defined or protected anywhere in that document). I can have a certain amount of respect for this viewpoint, although I can't agree with it. The problem Thomas is overlooking is that the government has only those powers that are specifically granted to it in the Constitution, and whichever powers it isn't explicitly granted are powers it doesn't have (that's the Tenth Amendment again). Also, to take it a step further back: although the Declaration of Independence carries no force of law int his country, it is in many ways the foundation for the Constitution that followed some fifteen years later. In that document, the Founding Fathers held it as a "self-evident truth" that all human beings have certain inalienable rights, including liberty. Thomas doesn't understand that "freedom" and "privacy" are concepts that are inextricably intertwined. If you have no privacy, you have no freedom. (The reverse is also true, of course.)
OK, just had to get all that off my chest. Certain people have been puzzled as to my occasional claims to being essentially a liberal with certain conservative viewpoints, since many of my conservative opinions (e.g., gun control) are among the more visible. Perhaps this little meandering opinion will serve to inform that I really do adhere to a lot of leftist viewpoints. BTW, I also oppose the flag amendment, I opposed the war in Iraq (although only after Denise gave me a lot of information about it that I hadn't had before), and I think that our foreign policy in general just plain sucks, inasmuch as it's far too interventionist.
Posted by Zathras at June 27, 2003 09:42 AMI can't believe we have a government that can actually legislate sex. Are there any positions that are outlawed and can put you in jail? I kinda need to know, just in case . . .
Posted by: Shaw at June 27, 2003 12:53 PMLOL
the *one* comment that no one is willing to touch with a ten foot pole!
Posted by: Shaw at June 27, 2003 06:46 PMOh, sure, I'm willing to answer it. I was just hoping for the joy of watching someone else do it first. *snicker*
According to Parrish, it's illegal to perform oral sex in Maryland...gee, he was rather upset when he discovered that, can't imagine why... ;)
Posted by: Moggy at June 27, 2003 10:11 PM"Certain people have been puzzled as to my occasional claims to being essentially a liberal with certain conservative viewpoints..."
What can I say, somehow "gun-totin' liberal" just doesn't sound quite right. I *have* seen "liberal and ARMED" bumper stickers in my area, though, so it's not like it would be a first... :)
Posted by: Moggy at June 27, 2003 10:14 PM> What can I say, somehow "gun-totin' liberal" just doesn't sound quite right.
Yes, it's true we're not exactly a dime a dozen, but we do exist.
Posted by: Zathras at June 27, 2003 11:14 PM"Yes, it's true we're not exactly a dime a dozen, but we do exist."
*chuckle* Political beliefs aside, you're unique enough that I don't think there's even a such thing as a "we" in your case. :)
Posted by: Moggy at June 27, 2003 11:17 PM> *chuckle* Political beliefs aside, you're unique
> enough that I don't think there's even a such
> thing as a "we" in your case. :)
*grin*
"Whatever happened to the Judean People's Front, anyway?"
"Umm... he's over there, I think..."
Hey
Do I know how to light a fire or what? ;)
Expect to see yer piece in this week's Am. Feed, Parrish:
http://www.americanfeedmagazine.com
Damn, I can't believe I said "This week" instead of, like, this month, or even this bi-month. Amazin'.
Posted by: Shaw at June 28, 2003 12:19 AMHey! I'm a we! - um - I guess.
I'm a soon to be gun purchasing, then gun toting liberal. :)
I'm just still mentally going through every type of gun ever made, and all the calibers, and mentally debating the pros and cons of each before I start purchasing and toting. :)
Posted by: Matt at June 28, 2003 06:46 AMPersonally, rather than give special marriage rights to gays and lesbians, I'd like to see special marriage rights taken away from everyone.
Other than refusing to testify against one's spouse in court, all the rights you mention can be specially contracted for individually.
Taking away the special marriage rights would put singles and couples on equal footing and allow gays, lesbians and poly marriages to set their own standards and rights by drafting legal contracts.
Posted by: Sparrow at June 29, 2003 05:48 AMI've heard that argument before, Sparrow, and while I was initially persuaded, I'm not anymore... I agree that having the government formally recognize marriages (any kind of marriages, gay, straight, or other arrangement) is an intrusion and a hassle, but I don't think that replacing the current legal protections with individually contracted arrangements would be an improvement. Marriage is already a very complicated undertaking, and "privatizing" the various matters currently protected by public law would only make it more so.
Yes, government, in general, sucks, but it does have its uses and its purposes, especially in those cases where the alternative (no government) is significantly worse. This is one such case.
Posted by: Zathras at June 29, 2003 10:07 AMWell, others may like the standard marriage contract, but it doesn't suit me. If I take am ind to make a legal bond between myself and another, I'll do it with contracts. There are way, way, way too many drawbacks to the standard marriage package for me to accept it.