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Hypnosis and Magicians' Forbidding Chill

To: alt.magick.tyagi,alt.magick.goetia,alt.magick
From: nagasiva 
Subject: Hypnosis and Magicians' Forbidding Chill
Date: Tue, 25 May 2004 13:47:14 GMT

50040525 vii om

#> which is why the G.'.D.'. and all other
#> major (and otherwise) metaphysical religions forbids its use.

Gnome d Plume :
# ...The G.D. forbade "hypnosis" (not
# self-hypnosis) because spiritualism and various mesmeristic stage and
# salon "swamis" were enjoying notorious public notoriety in the
# Victorian era. Unfortunately the G.D.'s ban extended to the use of
# crystal orbs and dark mirrors as well because they were "hypnotic"  
# and popular with the "evil" drawing room swamis....

what is the value of magicians being forbade anything at all?
does this serve any reliable interests we might identify?

# This served to castrate G.D.magick in the areas of invocation and
# evocation ....

most moral injunctions against occult practices disable practical 
expression and exploration to some degree. the fearmongering of
magicians in defense against shysters takes the unfortunate form
of blackwashing all those engaged in "questionable" activities
(often transgressive against the general religious notions that
overlap into the societal community of the occult) as frauds.

this, like the claim that all usenet is substanceless and
contains no valuable conversation, has a chilling effect.
do the religious and mystical moralizers know that this
effect is arising due to their "concerned warnings"? in
some cases the answer is yes. the intentions are an increase
in religious activities to the detriment of occult practice.

# ...Crystal orbs and dark
# mirrors were the major conjuration devices of choice in Renaissance
# High magick as any serious student of the Art well knows. There are
# some ritualistic hangovers in the old obligations against hypnosis,
# but it is no longer considered forbidden by those who seriously 
# practice the Magical Art----in fact hypnosis, in its various forms, 
# is what makes the Magical Art actually work. 

exemplary of how such forbidding can completely disable magical
practices. if the device which makes magic work is forbidden in 
protection, at some point all magic ceases, ostensibly because
the magicians (usually mystics, religious) have a sufficient 
interest in seeing the problems stop that they forbid even what 
is helpful to their presumed purposes (magic) in pursuit of the
defusing of what they see as an associated issue (attention
aggregating around those of questionable character).


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