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Eastern LBRP

To: alt.magick
From: bloodofenoch@goddamnfruit.com ({ Secret Chief })
Subject: Re: Eastern LBRP
Date: 1 Jun 2003 21:10:36 -0700

"SwAmI"  wrote in message news:...

> I am currently asking these questions on this very Forum. 

Really?  I thought you were asking whether there was a Hinduized form
of the LBRP out there, not whether it was a good idea.  But since
you're on the right track now, I'll do my best to answer.

> Thanks for
> pointing out the Obvious, though.

My specialty.

> "{ Secret Chief }"  wrote in message
> news:a3076ef3.0305311209.284b8a4@posting.google.com...
> > "SwAmI"  wrote in message
>  news:...

> > * Do the Hindu gods fit into the four-directions/four-elements model?

Short answer: no.  Neither do Greek gods, Norse gods, Boddhisattvas,
Daoist immortals, or any of the other divinities.  Gods are
essentially poetic things; the four-elements/four-directions schema is
an essentially allegorizing mechanistic view of the world.

In poetry, you have a lot of ambiguity, surplus meaning and redundancy
floating around - that's what makes it complex and interesting -
that's what makes it poetry.  But allegory strives towards economy -
that's what makes it clear and clever.  The two do not naturally fit
together.  To make them fit, you have to force them; you have to make
poetry to become and debase what makes it itself.

> > * Do their names function in the same talismanic way as Kabbalistic
> > god-names?

They do function in a talismanic way, but not in the same talismanic
way.  Hebrew god-names one fears to pronounce at all; when they are
spoken finally, it is an earth-shattering occurence.  Hindu god names,
on the other hand, are invoked by ceaseless repetition:

"Hare Krishna
Krishna Krishna
Hare Rama
Rama Rama"

etc.

> > * Is their relationship with their worshippers at all similar to the
> > relationship between magician and Deity presupposed in the LBRP?

I'm not qualified to answer definitively, but I'd say no.

> > * Does Hinduism have the same attitude towards "hostile" or "blind
> > forces" as the one presupposed in the LBRP?

Again, not qualified to answer definitively, but I'd guess not in
general.

> > * Etc.

Another question is: which Hinduism?  It's a *huge* and very very old
religion, with a lot of different and often incompatible flavors.

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