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The Open Source Order of the Golden Dawn

To: alt.magick,alt.magick.order,alt.magick.tyagi,alt.thelema,alt.pagan.magick
From: catherine yronwode 
Subject: Re: The Open Source Order of the Golden Dawn (LONG response to 333)
Date: Mon, 13 Jan 2003 05:01:57 GMT

~From:  "Fr. A.o.C." 

[everything snipped, all of it. go back and read it in google.] 

Hey, Max, that was an entertaining and enlightening response to siva's
questions. Thanks to Sam for contributing, also. 

I think that this series of exchanges is beginning to clarify my
understanding of what the OSOGD is up to when replacing Horus with Set
and Osiris with Horus. I especially appreciate the inclusion of the
(Jungian) Shadow represented by Set. 

I do have a small quibble still re: your reference to "paganism" and
Osiris as the "green man" or vegetation god. The emasculation of
Osiris is consonant with Christian myth, as you bolted, but it is
certainly not the paradigm for all pagan religions. See, for instance,
Tamuuz / Dumuzi -- a vegetation god and shepherd god (two in one)
whose penis was not ever chopped off but was said to spring up like a
bolting lettuce stalk growing by the water. Sure, he dies and goes to
become king of the underworld (playing on his carnelian flute to
please the women there), but there is no way to correlate either his
lettuce stalk or his flute with the Osirian cock-less wonder. As far
as i know, Osiris is somewhat of an anomaly in that regard. Even Jesus
was said to have boffed Mary Magdalen, thus giving rise to the
Merovingian kings of France!

I am not denying the valid interest you have in retaining the paganist
elements in the HOGD, which were rescinded for the initiate who joined
the Christianized RR+AC -- just pointing out that you might have
chosen another godform than Horus for the East. What about Min, for
instance. There was guy who knew how to wield his staff!

Yours from the sidelines, 

cat yronwode

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