Message-ID: <3CA30EAD.7EE56BD7@netscape.net> Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 07:38:05 -0500 From: ClydesdaleMTB <ClydesdaleMTB@netscape.net> Newsgroups: alt.autos.volvo Lines: 23 This morning I noticed the passengers side front carpet was wet, It was bone dry Sunday when I had the carpeting out to for cleaning. The car recently sat out in the rain, as well as being driven in the rain. If it matters, until this time this vehicle has never sat out in the rain over night, the previous owners were blessed w/ a heated garage. I'm sure this is water and not coolant/anti-freeze.... no odor, no color, no taste. When I pulled up the carpet and padding on Sunday, The floor pan was pristine, no signs of any previous water infiltration in the past, and I'd like to keep it that way in the future. Drying it out is not a problem, but I need to find the entry point !!!! Where are the likely suspect places to look? -- ClydesdaleMTB Sunday Morning Services with Ron and the boys http//www.shavings.net/images/bikes/ice/sunday_ride.jpg

Message-ID: <3CA31F10.A2406E9D@attcanada.cant> Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 08:48:00 -0500 From: Mike F <"mikef2316()"@attcanada.cant> Newsgroups: alt.autos.volvo Lines: 33 ClydesdaleMTB wrote: > > This morning I noticed the passengers side front carpet was wet, It > was bone dry Sunday when I had the carpeting out to for cleaning. > The car recently sat out in the rain, as well as being driven in the > rain. If it matters, until this time this vehicle has never sat out > in the rain over night, the previous owners were blessed w/ a heated > garage. I'm sure this is water and not coolant/anti-freeze.... no > odor, no color, no taste. > > When I pulled up the carpet and padding on Sunday, The floor pan > was pristine, no signs of any previous water infiltration in the > past, and I'd like to keep it that way in the future. Drying it out > is not a problem, but I need to find the entry point !!!! > > Where are the likely suspect places to look? > > -- > > ClydesdaleMTB > > Sunday Morning Services with Ron and the boys > http//www.shavings.net/images/bikes/ice/sunday_ride.jpg Assuming it's not A/C condensate, leaks around the windshield are a big culprit, but also look at the wiper pivot, and wiper motor, and around the A/C lines. -- Mike F. Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont. Change cant to ca and remove parentheses to email me directly.

Message-ID: <3CA3222D.219743F@netscape.net> Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 09:01:17 -0500 From: ClydesdaleMTB <ClydesdaleMTB@netscape.net> Newsgroups: alt.autos.volvo Lines: 47 Mike F wrote: > > ClydesdaleMTB wrote: > > > > This morning I noticed the passengers side front carpet was wet, It > > was bone dry Sunday when I had the carpeting out to for cleaning. > > The car recently sat out in the rain, as well as being driven in the > > rain. If it matters, until this time this vehicle has never sat out > > in the rain over night, the previous owners were blessed w/ a heated > > garage. I'm sure this is water and not coolant/anti-freeze.... no > > odor, no color, no taste. > > > > When I pulled up the carpet and padding on Sunday, The floor pan > > was pristine, no signs of any previous water infiltration in the > > past, and I'd like to keep it that way in the future. Drying it out > > is not a problem, but I need to find the entry point !!!! > > > > Where are the likely suspect places to look? > > > > -- > > > > ClydesdaleMTB > > > > Sunday Morning Services with Ron and the boys > > http//www.shavings.net/images/bikes/ice/sunday_ride.jpg > > Assuming it's not A/C condensate, AC has not worked for 5 years. >leaks around the windshield are a big culprit, Perhaps the upper right corner of the windscreen, where the molding has pulled away from the body? >but also look at the wiper pivot, and wiper motor, and around > the A/C lines. Will do! -- ClydesdaleMTB Sunday Morning Services with Ron and the boys http//www.shavings.net/images/bikes/ice/sunday_ride.jpg

Message-ID: <slrnaa6akd.1ec.aiyar@aiyar9.mimnet.northwestern.edu> Date: 28 Mar 2002 14:37:01 GMT From: Ashok Aiyar <aiyar@ebv.mimnet.northwestern.edu> Newsgroups: alt.autos.volvo Lines: 21 On Thu, 28 Mar 2002 09:01:17 -0500, ClydesdaleMTB (ClydesdaleMTB@netscape.net) wrote: >>leaks around the windshield are a big culprit, > > Perhaps the upper right corner of the windscreen, where the molding > has pulled away from the body? > >>but also look at the wiper pivot, and wiper motor, and around >> the A/C lines. Another suggestion, that has happened in a car I have owned. Does the passenger side window sit correctly? Are are any gaps between the window and the door frame, when the window is wound up? Ashok -- Ashok Aiyar RLU #51601 '90 764 Ti 173K

Message-ID: <3CA3997A.6053F9B7@attcanada.cant> Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 17:30:18 -0500 From: Mike F <"mikef2316()"@attcanada.cant> Newsgroups: alt.autos.volvo Lines: 17 ClydesdaleMTB wrote: > > > >leaks around the windshield are a big culprit, > > Perhaps the upper right corner of the windscreen, where the molding > has pulled away from the body? > Note that the windshield molding is strictly decorative, the seal is on the inside of the windshield. -- Mike F. Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont. Change cant to ca and remove parentheses to email me directly.

Message-ID: <a8pk2s$7a1$1@green.tninet.se> Date: Sun, 7 Apr 2002 16:10:05 +0200 From: "M. J-berg" <evu527n@tninet.se> Newsgroups: alt.autos.volvo Lines: 39 Check rear wiper wash tube. Maybe leaking... "Mike F" <"mikef2316()"@attcanada.cant> skrev i meddelandet news:3CA31F10.A2406E9D@attcanada.cant... > ClydesdaleMTB wrote: > > > > This morning I noticed the passengers side front carpet was wet, It > > was bone dry Sunday when I had the carpeting out to for cleaning. > > The car recently sat out in the rain, as well as being driven in the > > rain. If it matters, until this time this vehicle has never sat out > > in the rain over night, the previous owners were blessed w/ a heated > > garage. I'm sure this is water and not coolant/anti-freeze.... no > > odor, no color, no taste. > > > > When I pulled up the carpet and padding on Sunday, The floor pan > > was pristine, no signs of any previous water infiltration in the > > past, and I'd like to keep it that way in the future. Drying it out > > is not a problem, but I need to find the entry point !!!! > > > > Where are the likely suspect places to look? > > > > -- > > > > ClydesdaleMTB > > > > Sunday Morning Services with Ron and the boys > > http//www.shavings.net/images/bikes/ice/sunday_ride.jpg > > Assuming it's not A/C condensate, leaks around the windshield are a big > culprit, but also look at the wiper pivot, and wiper motor, and around > the A/C lines. > > -- > Mike F. > Thornhill (near Toronto), Ont. > > Change cant to ca and remove parentheses to email me directly.

Message-ID: <VxMo8.10933$Eb5.979859@bgtnsc05-news.ops.worldnet.att.net> Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 22:11:01 GMT From: "M.C." <mc9876@hotmail.com> Newsgroups: alt.autos.volvo Lines: 11 Just a guess, but since you said you had the carpet out for cleaning, I'd suspect that you might have knocked off the drain line from the AC box. While it certainly is there to carry away any condensate when the AC is running (which yours apparently is not), it would also serve to drain away any water that found it's way into the box from the outside world, as in rain!... Marvin, in Atlanta...

Message-ID: <3ca3b820$0$65889$e2e8da3@nntp.cts.com> Date: Thu, 28 Mar 2002 16:40:41 -0800 From: "Dave S." <daveshanNospaM@cts.com> Newsgroups: alt.autos.volvo Lines: 34 "ClydesdaleMTB" <ClydesdaleMTB@netscape.net> wrote in message news:3CA30EAD.7EE56BD7@netscape.net... [snip] > I'm sure this is water and not coolant/anti-freeze.... no > odor, no color, no taste. > > When I pulled up the carpet and padding on Sunday, The floor pan > was pristine, no signs of any previous water infiltration in the > past, and I'd like to keep it that way in the future. Drying it out > is not a problem, but I need to find the entry point !!!! > > Where are the likely suspect places to look? I had some rust issues on the floorpan of my '85, long story short after fixing it I tracked down the leaks. Largest was from a plug that had gone missing in the corner of the firewall where it meets the fender, very hard to see from the engine compartment but I found it by looking up under the dash on a sunny day with the hood up. I found a few more small leaks by running a hose with a sprayer on it over the front of the car to imitate a hard rain. From inside with the padding over the foot areas removed and the carpet pulled back I found that almost every grommet was weeping, even with the hood closed. A good water based silicone cured that and all is dry now. The other problem areas I see others have mentioned so I won't be redundant. Good luck in your hunt. Dave daveshan@cts.com (La Mesa CA) 1988 240 DL 17X,XXX 1986 740 GLE 22X,XXX 1985 240 Ti 19X,XXX (Life begins at 14.7 psi) http://www.homestead.com/volvo2/

Message-ID: <1017788113.936206@www.vif.com> Date: Tue, 02 Apr 2002 22:55:13 GMT From: "Luis Ojos" <Eigensinn_eh@hotmail.com> Newsgroups: alt.autos.volvo Lines: 39 Clyde S. Dale; I had a similar occurence with my 85 245. The "fix" involved poking a wire into the drainage slots on the underside at the seam where the rocker panel meets up with the floor panel and reaming them out. The non-drip rust spray (about the consistency of vaseline petroleum jelly) had run down and clogged them up. Litresworth of water drained out and there were no more puddles in the front passenger-side floor mat/pan after that. ClydesdaleMTB <ClydesdaleMTB@netscape.net> wrote in message news:3CA30EAD.7EE56BD7@netscape.net... > > This morning I noticed the passengers side front carpet was wet, It > was bone dry Sunday when I had the carpeting out to for cleaning. > The car recently sat out in the rain, as well as being driven in the > rain. If it matters, until this time this vehicle has never sat out > in the rain over night, the previous owners were blessed w/ a heated > garage. I'm sure this is water and not coolant/anti-freeze.... no > odor, no color, no taste. > > When I pulled up the carpet and padding on Sunday, The floor pan > was pristine, no signs of any previous water infiltration in the > past, and I'd like to keep it that way in the future. Drying it out > is not a problem, but I need to find the entry point !!!! > > Where are the likely suspect places to look? > > > -- > > ClydesdaleMTB > > Sunday Morning Services with Ron and the boys > http//www.shavings.net/images/bikes/ice/sunday_ride.jpg

Message-ID: <24791bcd.0204030728.3fb3c43e@posting.google.com> Date: 3 Apr 2002 07:28:58 -0800 From: wstehlin@hotmail.com (Bill Stehlin) Newsgroups: alt.autos.volvo Lines: 7 Based on too many similar experiences over the past 20 years, would rate highest liklihood as from various holes in firewall (wiper, grommets, etc. ), especially if car was parked facing uphill during rain. Drain holes at hood/windshield vent get clogged and water dams up flowing through wiper armature, and around wires/tubes piercing firewall. Windshield leaking I have never found to be the source, although have tested for it every time.